Tout simplement car on nous sert toujours et encore du sanwa et seimitsu...(je dit pas que c'est de la merde)
J'en ai parlé a laugh, et parce que c'est un gars super sympa et réglo, ben je vais faire un peu de pub pour le matos coréen, qui n'ayons pas peur des mots...est le meilleur!
attention ca va etre de l'anglais (en meme temps si vous voulez commander des pieces a laugh, il faudra bien vous y mettre ^^), il fait aussi les sitcks tout fait, comme celui de Nin par exemple
The Korean joysticks do not use the spring only rubber ring. Smillar how Wico and MCA
They have very smooth movement - very comfortable. They are good to fighter but they are not suitable to shmups and platform (long throw), 8way mode only:( Unfortunately they are not precise, centre to center unequatly. The mistake of measurement carries out until max2mm because joysticks are not precise ( rubber ring).
manufacturers:
CROWN
Crown Joystcik are worse qualitatively from Sanwa or iL but better from Chinese :laugh2: - copies differ, small mistakes in constructions, you can buy 4 and every will act differently (different strength of rubber ring), crapy microswitches...
If you will buy Korean joystcik on DECO microswitches - alter microswitches! DECO is crap. I recommend Gersung or Omron V series They on omron act a lot better!
CWL302 - I am not sure real names this joystick I think that this CWL302, nicely executed, it acts similarly how JLW (J-stick) - korean copy, this only korean model which has not rubber ring. Full spring Action. I do not command him he has not no advantages in playing. JLW is better. Produce is stoped! (white crow)
rotation = square
throw = angle - 11 degree; travel - 13mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 20 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,44kG
CWL303 - similar to Fanta, very soft, my disastrous diagonals, it was it been possible to improve - bend lever microswitches.
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 9mm
diagonal = range 20 degree; hitting 66%
force to engage = 0,17kG
CWL304 - joystick on leaf switches. I think that this TOTAL CRAP! :P
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 6 degree; travel - 7mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,22kG
CWL305 - very soft, very good diagonals, this very nice Crown model.
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 45 degree; hitting 90%
force to engage = 0,175kG
CWL305 +Spring Action - for me this the best Crown model. I command him, it acts how hybrid Fanta and Competion. Good for KOF, Tekken
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,2kG
CWL306 - NEW Crown model, Quality of realization very good! This looks beautifully. It acts to CWL305 similarly (but I still will CLW305).
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 12 degree; travel - 12mm
engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,275kG
manufacturers:
MyoungShin
Myoungshin
Fanta (low stiffness) - Fanta clone, the most often used in korea. Nice feel and realization. BUY:) Alter microswitches on Omron. Joystick acts on them magnificently!
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 25 degree; hitting 75%
force to engage = 0,22kG
Fanta (medium stiffnes) - Fanta clone, used in Saulabi. Fatal feel and realization, NOT BUY! battop is from rubber, bad centres to center, very slow joystick. CRAP!
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 25 degree; hitting 75%
force to engage = 0,37kG
manufacturers:
TaeYoung
TaeYoung
Fanta - original "Fanta". Japanes & Korean played on this joystick on SBO. It is very hard 0,5kG! Quality of realization very good - pretty and durable! Unfortunately when I played I lost diagonal during executing QCF:( Therefore that it is hard... Microswitches - GERSUNG very good!
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,5kG
Myoungshin is the name of the company that makes that Fanta stick, just like Taeyoung is the name of the company and they make Fanta sticks. I tack on the company name to prevent any confusions. So if the stick has low/med/high stiffness, I'll say that it is. The actuators are mostly fat now. It's been awhile since the small actuator version was discontinued.
Taeyoung and Myoungshin are unrelated, and Myoungshin Fanta sticks are not Taeyoung Fanta sticks with just softer rubber and fatter actuator. They are made by different companies, with different mold for everything. Their rubber pad and the knob happens to be interchangeable though.
I'd like to note that Crown has made improvements to the CLW303 stick very recently (1~2 weeks ago) and after testing the test sample I got from them, I can say that it has become a pretty good stick. I know how terrible the old CLW303 was and hated it, but the changes they made to the stick did the trick (made the actuator slightly fatter, and chose Gersung for the microswitch).
The cause for the change came from Tekken 6. Crown supplied CLW303 sticks and screw-in buttons for Tekken6 cabinets sold in Korea, but after getting a lot of complaints about the stick from players, they've went and fixed the problems. They're also busy trying improve other sticks in their inventory lately.
Et voila le profil de Laugh sur SRK vous pouvez prendre contact avec lui en lui envoyant des MP, il est Dispo tout les jours a par le week end: http://forums.shoryuken.com/member.php?u=18843
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