Les sticks coréens
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Les sticks coréens
Voila j'ai décidé de faire un Topic sur les sticks coréen (ou plutot de copier un topic).
Tout simplement car on nous sert toujours et encore du sanwa et seimitsu...(je dit pas que c'est de la merde)
J'en ai parlé a laugh, et parce que c'est un gars super sympa et réglo, ben je vais faire un peu de pub pour le matos coréen, qui n'ayons pas peur des mots...est le meilleur!
attention ca va etre de l'anglais (en meme temps si vous voulez commander des pieces a laugh, il faudra bien vous y mettre ^^), il fait aussi les sitcks tout fait, comme celui de Nin par exemple
The Korean joysticks do not use the spring only rubber ring. Smillar how Wico and MCA
They have very smooth movement - very comfortable. They are good to fighter but they are not suitable to shmups and platform (long throw), 8way mode only:( Unfortunately they are not precise, centre to center unequatly. The mistake of measurement carries out until max2mm because joysticks are not precise ( rubber ring).
manufacturers:
CROWN
Crown Joystcik are worse qualitatively from Sanwa or iL but better from Chinese :laugh2: - copies differ, small mistakes in constructions, you can buy 4 and every will act differently (different strength of rubber ring), crapy microswitches...
If you will buy Korean joystcik on DECO microswitches - alter microswitches! DECO is crap. I recommend Gersung or Omron V series They on omron act a lot better!
CWL302 - I am not sure real names this joystick I think that this CWL302, nicely executed, it acts similarly how JLW (J-stick) - korean copy, this only korean model which has not rubber ring. Full spring Action. I do not command him he has not no advantages in playing. JLW is better. Produce is stoped! (white crow)
rotation = square
throw = angle - 11 degree; travel - 13mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 20 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,44kG
CWL303 - similar to Fanta, very soft, my disastrous diagonals, it was it been possible to improve - bend lever microswitches.
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 9mm
diagonal = range 20 degree; hitting 66%
force to engage = 0,17kG
CWL304 - joystick on leaf switches. I think that this TOTAL CRAP! :P
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 6 degree; travel - 7mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,22kG
CWL305 - very soft, very good diagonals, this very nice Crown model.
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 45 degree; hitting 90%
force to engage = 0,175kG
CWL305 +Spring Action - for me this the best Crown model. I command him, it acts how hybrid Fanta and Competion. Good for KOF, Tekken
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,2kG
CWL306 - NEW Crown model, Quality of realization very good! This looks beautifully. It acts to CWL305 similarly (but I still will CLW305).
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 12 degree; travel - 12mm
engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,275kG
manufacturers:
MyoungShin
Myoungshin
Fanta (low stiffness) - Fanta clone, the most often used in korea. Nice feel and realization. BUY:) Alter microswitches on Omron. Joystick acts on them magnificently!
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 25 degree; hitting 75%
force to engage = 0,22kG
Fanta (medium stiffnes) - Fanta clone, used in Saulabi. Fatal feel and realization, NOT BUY! battop is from rubber, bad centres to center, very slow joystick. CRAP!
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 25 degree; hitting 75%
force to engage = 0,37kG
manufacturers:
TaeYoung
TaeYoung
Fanta - original "Fanta". Japanes & Korean played on this joystick on SBO. It is very hard 0,5kG! Quality of realization very good - pretty and durable! Unfortunately when I played I lost diagonal during executing QCF:( Therefore that it is hard... Microswitches - GERSUNG very good!
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,5kG
Myoungshin is the name of the company that makes that Fanta stick, just like Taeyoung is the name of the company and they make Fanta sticks. I tack on the company name to prevent any confusions. So if the stick has low/med/high stiffness, I'll say that it is. The actuators are mostly fat now. It's been awhile since the small actuator version was discontinued.
Taeyoung and Myoungshin are unrelated, and Myoungshin Fanta sticks are not Taeyoung Fanta sticks with just softer rubber and fatter actuator. They are made by different companies, with different mold for everything. Their rubber pad and the knob happens to be interchangeable though.
I'd like to note that Crown has made improvements to the CLW303 stick very recently (1~2 weeks ago) and after testing the test sample I got from them, I can say that it has become a pretty good stick. I know how terrible the old CLW303 was and hated it, but the changes they made to the stick did the trick (made the actuator slightly fatter, and chose Gersung for the microswitch).
The cause for the change came from Tekken 6. Crown supplied CLW303 sticks and screw-in buttons for Tekken6 cabinets sold in Korea, but after getting a lot of complaints about the stick from players, they've went and fixed the problems. They're also busy trying improve other sticks in their inventory lately.
Et voila le profil de Laugh sur SRK vous pouvez prendre contact avec lui en lui envoyant des MP, il est Dispo tout les jours a par le week end: http://forums.shoryuken.com/member.php?u=18843
Tout simplement car on nous sert toujours et encore du sanwa et seimitsu...(je dit pas que c'est de la merde)
J'en ai parlé a laugh, et parce que c'est un gars super sympa et réglo, ben je vais faire un peu de pub pour le matos coréen, qui n'ayons pas peur des mots...est le meilleur!
attention ca va etre de l'anglais (en meme temps si vous voulez commander des pieces a laugh, il faudra bien vous y mettre ^^), il fait aussi les sitcks tout fait, comme celui de Nin par exemple
The Korean joysticks do not use the spring only rubber ring. Smillar how Wico and MCA
They have very smooth movement - very comfortable. They are good to fighter but they are not suitable to shmups and platform (long throw), 8way mode only:( Unfortunately they are not precise, centre to center unequatly. The mistake of measurement carries out until max2mm because joysticks are not precise ( rubber ring).
manufacturers:
CROWN
Crown Joystcik are worse qualitatively from Sanwa or iL but better from Chinese :laugh2: - copies differ, small mistakes in constructions, you can buy 4 and every will act differently (different strength of rubber ring), crapy microswitches...
If you will buy Korean joystcik on DECO microswitches - alter microswitches! DECO is crap. I recommend Gersung or Omron V series They on omron act a lot better!
CWL302 - I am not sure real names this joystick I think that this CWL302, nicely executed, it acts similarly how JLW (J-stick) - korean copy, this only korean model which has not rubber ring. Full spring Action. I do not command him he has not no advantages in playing. JLW is better. Produce is stoped! (white crow)
rotation = square
throw = angle - 11 degree; travel - 13mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 20 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,44kG
CWL303 - similar to Fanta, very soft, my disastrous diagonals, it was it been possible to improve - bend lever microswitches.
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 9mm
diagonal = range 20 degree; hitting 66%
force to engage = 0,17kG
CWL304 - joystick on leaf switches. I think that this TOTAL CRAP! :P
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 6 degree; travel - 7mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,22kG
CWL305 - very soft, very good diagonals, this very nice Crown model.
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 45 degree; hitting 90%
force to engage = 0,175kG
CWL305 +Spring Action - for me this the best Crown model. I command him, it acts how hybrid Fanta and Competion. Good for KOF, Tekken
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 7 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,2kG
CWL306 - NEW Crown model, Quality of realization very good! This looks beautifully. It acts to CWL305 similarly (but I still will CLW305).
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 12 degree; travel - 12mm
engage = angle - 8 degree; travel - 8mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,275kG
manufacturers:
MyoungShin
Myoungshin
Fanta (low stiffness) - Fanta clone, the most often used in korea. Nice feel and realization. BUY:) Alter microswitches on Omron. Joystick acts on them magnificently!
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 25 degree; hitting 75%
force to engage = 0,22kG
Fanta (medium stiffnes) - Fanta clone, used in Saulabi. Fatal feel and realization, NOT BUY! battop is from rubber, bad centres to center, very slow joystick. CRAP!
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 25 degree; hitting 75%
force to engage = 0,37kG
manufacturers:
TaeYoung
TaeYoung
Fanta - original "Fanta". Japanes & Korean played on this joystick on SBO. It is very hard 0,5kG! Quality of realization very good - pretty and durable! Unfortunately when I played I lost diagonal during executing QCF:( Therefore that it is hard... Microswitches - GERSUNG very good!
rotation = circle
throw = angle - 13 degree; travel - 14mm
engage = angle - 9 degree; travel - 10mm
diagonal = range 30 degree; hitting 80%
force to engage = 0,5kG
Myoungshin is the name of the company that makes that Fanta stick, just like Taeyoung is the name of the company and they make Fanta sticks. I tack on the company name to prevent any confusions. So if the stick has low/med/high stiffness, I'll say that it is. The actuators are mostly fat now. It's been awhile since the small actuator version was discontinued.
Taeyoung and Myoungshin are unrelated, and Myoungshin Fanta sticks are not Taeyoung Fanta sticks with just softer rubber and fatter actuator. They are made by different companies, with different mold for everything. Their rubber pad and the knob happens to be interchangeable though.
I'd like to note that Crown has made improvements to the CLW303 stick very recently (1~2 weeks ago) and after testing the test sample I got from them, I can say that it has become a pretty good stick. I know how terrible the old CLW303 was and hated it, but the changes they made to the stick did the trick (made the actuator slightly fatter, and chose Gersung for the microswitch).
The cause for the change came from Tekken 6. Crown supplied CLW303 sticks and screw-in buttons for Tekken6 cabinets sold in Korea, but after getting a lot of complaints about the stick from players, they've went and fixed the problems. They're also busy trying improve other sticks in their inventory lately.
Et voila le profil de Laugh sur SRK vous pouvez prendre contact avec lui en lui envoyant des MP, il est Dispo tout les jours a par le week end: http://forums.shoryuken.com/member.php?u=18843
Modifié en dernier par The_Serval le 03 oct. 2008 à 19h40, modifié 3 fois.
1. Porte initiale 2. Porte de la guérison 3. Porte de la vie 4. Porte de la blessure 5. Porte de la rétention 6. Porte de la contemplation 7. Porte de l'extase 8. Porte de la mort
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- Silver Smurfer
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je suppli les modos de ne pas mettre ce topic dans celui des bidouilles sur les stick, sinon au bout de plusieurs messages il partira dans l'oubli dans la masse des commentaires
1. Porte initiale 2. Porte de la guérison 3. Porte de la vie 4. Porte de la blessure 5. Porte de la rétention 6. Porte de la contemplation 7. Porte de l'extase 8. Porte de la mort
Re : Les Sticks coréens
Tu es trop bon!SeRVaLllLL a écrit :J'en ai parlé a laugh, et parce que c'est un gars super sympa et réglo, ben je vais faire un peu de pub pour le matos coréen
T'avais discuté avec Laugh à UTXI?
- The_Serval
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bah j'ai acheté un stick a laugh, je lui ait dit que je jouais kazuya et il ma recommandé un Myoungshin Fanta stick il ma dit que c'était celui qui équipait les salles d'arcade coréennes, et que c'était du très très bon. Vraiment très très sympa
20 $ le joystick et pour le port j'ai pris EMS livraison éclair 3-5 jours 23$.
donc avec le cour du dollar ça vaut le coup, le stick me revient a 30euros en fait
20 $ le joystick et pour le port j'ai pris EMS livraison éclair 3-5 jours 23$.
donc avec le cour du dollar ça vaut le coup, le stick me revient a 30euros en fait
1. Porte initiale 2. Porte de la guérison 3. Porte de la vie 4. Porte de la blessure 5. Porte de la rétention 6. Porte de la contemplation 7. Porte de l'extase 8. Porte de la mort
- The_Serval
- Silver Smurfer
- Messages : 1475
- Enregistré le : 11 juin 2007 à 13h28
- Localisation : Bretagne
- The_Serval
- Silver Smurfer
- Messages : 1475
- Enregistré le : 11 juin 2007 à 13h28
- Localisation : Bretagne
UNDER CONSTRUCTION
Stick red Myoungshin Fanta
boutons seimitsu PS-14-K,(les boutons transparents dans lesquels on peut mettre une image)
demain c'est fini plus qu'a faire les soudures
Stick red Myoungshin Fanta
boutons seimitsu PS-14-K,(les boutons transparents dans lesquels on peut mettre une image)
demain c'est fini plus qu'a faire les soudures
1. Porte initiale 2. Porte de la guérison 3. Porte de la vie 4. Porte de la blessure 5. Porte de la rétention 6. Porte de la contemplation 7. Porte de l'extase 8. Porte de la mort
Re: Les sticks coréens
Yo quelqu'un a déjà commandé le Wooden ?
mon frère veut l'acheter mais j'aimerais bien avoir l'avis de battou ou d'autres qui savent quoi prendre avec (stick, boutons de rechange)
Et savoir si c'est easy de changer le stick et les boutons aussi (sauf si ceux de base sont déjà parfait)
mon frère veut l'acheter mais j'aimerais bien avoir l'avis de battou ou d'autres qui savent quoi prendre avec (stick, boutons de rechange)
Et savoir si c'est easy de changer le stick et les boutons aussi (sauf si ceux de base sont déjà parfait)
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Re: Les sticks coréens
Boutons de rechange Crown obligatoires (les boutons d'origine sont susceptibles de lâcher plus ou moins vite), et une poire Fanta Myoungshin.
Voici le tuto explicatif rédigé par le gérant d'eTokki qui va bien avec :
http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?th ... ial.41542/
Voici le tuto explicatif rédigé par le gérant d'eTokki qui va bien avec :
http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?th ... ial.41542/
... ☆ VBS 2.0 ☆
Re: Les sticks coréens
Merci Loki
En gros c'est assez relou pour changer les boutons faut souder et tout
Edit: T'as chopés ou ton appareil à souder au passage ?
En gros c'est assez relou pour changer les boutons faut souder et tout
Edit: T'as chopés ou ton appareil à souder au passage ?
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Re: Les sticks coréens
Tu trouveras ça dans une enseigne spécialisée dans le brico à coup sûr (Castorama, Bricorama, Leroy Merlin...).
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Re: Les sticks coréens
Ok thx, au final il en a eu pour 100 Euro (avec les 36 $ de frais de port) si ça intéresse quelqu'un (stick + poire Fanta et 6 boutons de rechange).
Faut être préparé pour TTT2 les amis moi jvais bientôt recevoir le Hori Real arcade pro V3 jpasse le lien si y'a type qui traine et qui cherche du sanwa il est en promotion en ce moment comme par hasard après que je l'ai commandé
Faut être préparé pour TTT2 les amis moi jvais bientôt recevoir le Hori Real arcade pro V3 jpasse le lien si y'a type qui traine et qui cherche du sanwa il est en promotion en ce moment comme par hasard après que je l'ai commandé